THE SCROLL: You Know What Time It Is
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“Still some unwanted olds left, but Medicare is committed to reducing their number….” - leithian
“Translation: ‘There are too many people. Let's knock off a few of the weak ones.’” - Christopher Cook
"You need a higher dose so you can die faster."
"We don't have the social security to pay you out. We gave it to Ukraine so they could money launder it back to the defense contractors. So we're taking you out back to shoot you like an old horse."
Cori Bren’s Peppermint Mocha Recipe
The Ethics of Art and Artificial Intelligence II
[In response to THE SCROLL: The Ethics of Art and Artificial Intelligence]
Barbra Streisand feat. Michel Legrand. (1991). What Are You Doing The Rest Of Your Life. Amazon Music.
Good Morning! 😃
“Good morning! There, I said it. Of course, it’s 4:57 AM and there’s no one here to hear it…” - Christopher Cook
In the quantum, all is concurrent. We heard him later anyway. Maybe it's one of those parables that loops back around on itself. "It is what it is. It's all of these other things too. And then it goes back to being what it is, including all of those other things, plus the essence of only what it is which it always was from the start."
“You know what time it is then...” - Apollo's Lyre
Dan Cortese time?
“It's time for the world's greatest gif, of course!” - Apollo's Lyre
“Always Dan Cortese time!” - Apollo's Lyre
My references are too obscure for the internet. I found no gif for this. LMFAO.
“Hahaha.” - Apollo's Lyre
It's better as a sound clip though. LMFAO
“There is no amount of bad news, up to and including reality-shattering, identity-negating, existential catastrophe, that I would not welcome if it was 90s Sharon Stone informing me of it.” - Apollo's Lyre
If Dan Cortese had a popular catchphrase he was known for and no one bothered to preserve it for posterity, are my memories even real?
Am I in a Mandela?
Have I switched timelines?
Do I even exist?!?!
Yeah, and he had like that super douchey delivery that like pre-Dane Cook, Dane Cook jackass kind of delivery to it. Like, YOUKNOWWHATTIMEITIS…..
“It's like how any piece of hologram you cut off contains the entirety of the hologram. Thus is a picture of Dan Cortese and the entire universe.” - Apollo's Lyre
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“LMAO. Pre-Dane Cook Dane Cook lolol.” - Apollo's Lyre
Holo-Cortesian
"‘You know what time it is!!’ So true haha.” - Apollo's Lyre
Yeah, but it has to be a recording, right? Because like that douchiness just doesn't come through clearly unless you can hear it. YOUKNOWWHATTIMEITIS.
“Cortesian Coordinates! That’s how we locate ourselves on this Cortesian Plane.” - Apollo's Lyre
Right before we jump out of it. 🤣
“We just invented a whole new and way more radical extreme sports geometry. I bet it could be used to pack even more Xtreme flavor into 3D Doritos.” - Apollo's Lyre
EXTREMELY SACRED GEOMETRY!
YOU KNOW TIME DOESN'T EXIST!
“Hahahaha.” - Apollo's Lyre
With even more temporal confusion packed into every bite! Sweet Jesus!!
I don't know where I am… or if I am… or when I am…. This is EXTREME!
“Yes!!! Metaphysical musings jammed into sound bites and compressed into PepsiCo slogans shouted by an AI generated voice of the deceased Macho Man Randy Savage to sell processed snacks and fizzy drinks.” - Apollo's Lyre
“We've already passed the future, and it can't get here fast enough. ‘OOOHHH YEEEAAH! A SUPERPOSITION OF BUFFALO RANCH FLAVOR COLLAPSING INTO EVERY BITE!’” - Apollo's Lyre
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can't you just hear in your head? Someone's like douchey Nokia phone playing that as their ringtone…. YOUKNWOWHATTIMEITIS!
"‘These new shiny trapezohedron shaped Gushers fruit snacks transport your taste buds to Yuggoth and back on an interdimensional slip and slide that is out of this world! Bursting with unspeakable flavor! Available now at a WalMart and Curious Goods near you in Mi-Go Melon and Grape Old Ones varieties. (General Mills not responsible for loss of limbs, life, or sanity. Gushers fruit snacks are not a food.)’ And, for the record, I actually do freaking love Gushers.” - Apollo's Lyre
I don't know that I've ever had Gushers. I remember the word, but I don't think I've ever had that.
“They are sooooooo so good haha. Best fruit snack ever. Right above Shark Bites. Which I realized too late I should not Google image search….” - Apollo's Lyre
Oh no!!!!! Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!
These have some interesting side effects….
“See! Clearly the work of Nyarlathotep.” - Apollo's Lyre
This is how they did recruitment for Donkeys, Inc.
“Hahaha.” - Apollo's Lyre
They ran the orphan trains ight to Pleasure Island and turned all the kids into donkeys.
That statement can be taken multiple ways and I think it's still true.
“So Gina isnt a natural born donkey!?” - Apollo's Lyre
She might not be. She may have been transformed into an MK Ultra donkey jackass slave.
Which would make her what? Transbestial? Transequus?
“Wereass! Yours... sound better.” - Apollo's Lyre
The question on everyone's mind as soon as they see 90s Sharon Stone.
“I also like the idea that Gina is a top secret experimental science MK Ultrass Donkey hybrid, and Tommy is... just a regular chicken. And together they fight crime and expose deep state lies.” - Apollo's Lyre
Tommy is the Every Chicken whose eyes we see the story through to make the entire thing so much more relatable.
See? It's so much more relatable now. 🤣
“It is! Haha.” - Apollo's Lyre
Awwwwww!!!!!! ❤️
“Tommy after he finally topples this Regime of Lies and gets a well deserved hug for saving humanity. Like the end of Homeward Bound.” - Apollo's Lyre
“Poor Chewy. No medal for him. Space racism! Spacism!” - Apollo's Lyre
Condense yourself, you spacist!
This is no time for expansion into hyperdimensionality!
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“No place for dimensional bigotry! 5th Dimension is just as valid as the 6th Dimension.” - Apollo's Lyre
That's where things get rough!
“Okay, I got tired of reacting to every comment. This entire convo is cracking me up. 😂 Okay, when The Starfire Codes and Apollo's Lyre start riffing off each other, it's a frenetically hilarious mind trip. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Y'all kill me.” - leithian
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“Clearly, Apollo-Starfire telepathy produces the best content anywhere, not just on Substack. 🤣” - leithian
LMFAO. Thank you. ❤️
“I appreciate that! All credit to Starfire for always bringing that cosmic fiyah though. Happy if I can fan the flames a bit haha. Memes for the Meme God! Scrolls for the Scroll Throne! 👿🤘💀” - Apollo's Lyre
Take the compliment, Son of Zeus. 🤣🤣🤣
“Yes, please do! You are BOTH amazing and brilliant. I get so much enjoyment out of those exchanges. 🤣🤣🤣” - leithian
And I get enjoyment out of yours and the whole mix of everyone's here. We all have the rhizome-brain around here. And I think it's amazeballs.
Someday we'll make him take a compliment, leithian. 🤣🤣🤣
“I will not stop trying! 🤣🤣🤣” - leithian
The Hitcher
In Which The Memelords Continue To Memelord….
MEME DROP #205: The Greatest Thing That Can Happen To You Is Hitting Rock Bottom.
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In Which The Shenanigators Are Shenanigating
The whole world is lowbrow. We were just put here to suck it up for a little while.
You know, I also don't get that whole conversation where people say that they volunteered to come down here.
I can't imagine having that conversation where I volunteered. I mean, maybe I saw that there was some sort of utility in which I felt compelled or obligated, but I don't see myself as volunteering for that.
I see myself as maybe begrudgingly agreeing. So kind of like a cross between Dante from Clerks. “I'm not even supposed to be here today,” peppered with a bit of Bruce Willis’s “I'm getting too old for this shit” kind of a thing. I think that's how that conversation went down.
“One thing that had an impact on me in this regard (and maybe it was even you who initially shared it with me) is the notion that the one thing that limitless beings lack is limitations. So in between incarnations, you may choose/volunteer to come here to test yourself.” - Christopher Cook
Constraints amplify creativity and build resilience.
I can think of a few reasons I'd agree to come down here that have absolutely nothing to do with that, and yet I'm still unsure I'd make the trade off knowing what else there is.
But my higher self is me, only amplified, and I don't pretend to be able to conceive of what proclivities she has, what she is inclined to do, or what she is capable of.
I just feel like I wouldn't have said yes willingly - there must have been a dire reason connected to it.
And in the tether dream, when I spent about an hour being her, everyone was terrified of her and scrambling to make sure they did what she said.
It felt hierarchical.
Like "don't piss off the boss."
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What I'm really wondering about are discrepancies in the perception of time, similar to how it is handled in the film Inception.
Am I living a lifetime in this level while my higher self only perceives a couple hours to have passed?
If that's the case, it would explain the inclination. I could handle this for "a couple hours."
If I could shake most of it off like a shitty hallucination afterwards, why not?
“That time perception aspect is really an astute thought. It only seeeeeems like a long time to us while we are here. (Plus, while we are here we get to have sex and eat ice cream. 🍦)” - Christopher Cook
My only question is, IF I volunteered, I'm wondering what I was told in order to get me to agree to that. Because I don't feel like I volunteered. lol. Or if I did, it was begrudgingly out of some sort of "necessity."
“I know what my role is.” - Christopher Cook
From Apollo's Lyre:
Like we discussed a bit before I think this is an interesting aspect of the "divine manifest" world view.
Not saying this is the answer, but one thing I think of when I wonder "If we are gods why on Earth would we come here!? Experience suffering? Allow atrocity?" etc... is narratives. Look at all the horrible things we write about happening in stories. All of the terrible things we put our characters through. Things writers relish; things readers or audiences thrill to. And not even with some happy ending plenty of the time. Why not save Antigone or Willy Loman? Especially as a horror fan I think about this. Why would we do that these characters? Why put someone in a Saw trap? Why go through so much effort to write and film it? Why go out of my way to pay money to watch it? Why not just write a bunch of people hugging at a picnic: the end?
It'd be heaven. But it’s boring. And nature abhors a vacuum is another way of saying God hates boredom, to me. As David Byrne sang: "Heaven is a place where nothing ever happens."
I think of video games where I literally choose to play a Mortal Kombat fighter risking life and limb to survive a brutal tournament with the fate of mankind in the balance or a Gears of War character facing endless waves of murderous aliens. Often dying. Over and over again in horrific, excruciating ways. Why do that? Because they aren't "real," don't think or feel? Because I can revive the character? Revert to an earlier save? If we are dimensionally "lower," essentially the same to God as a character would be to us, how do we know we don't just respawn here like Edge of Tomorrow (FWIW Neville says we basically do)?
And what consolation would it be to Kratos as he thinks of his dead family murdered by his own hand as a minotaur impales him on a spear if I told him he was a character and it "wasn’t real so don’t worry because God of War is a fun game?" Could I convince these characters of why we have godlike power over them and yet choose to do this to them, up to and including choosing to experience it with them through catharsis and kairosis? Would Kratos be like "Oh ok cool, glad you’re having fun!" or would Kratos be like, "Fool! Restore my family and spare me the torture of these callous gods!" How could they convince us to spare them? After all, they aren’t "real" and we selfishly enjoy the thrill of their exploits.
Are we any more real? We certainly think so because our consciousness is locked into a sense suit in a particular time-space Cortesian reality coordinate. But we cry during movies and our hearts race playing games. We become those characters yet damn them still (if only for the thrill of saving them in some cases or the surprise of not knowing in others). How then could we in this form convince God to spare us, that we were anymore "real," how would God (larger Us) even know our suffering in this incarnation (lower Us)? Is this one meaning of the Jesus story? Is it simply the callousness of transcendence? Or is it the ignorance of incarnation that sees not the larger purpose, the play as Neville would call it, or the ride as Bill Hicks would call it?
Or none of the above? Haha just fun to think about :)
I think that acting out these paradigms is how Source consciousness is attempting to heal itself.
We're all here to learn from each other, whether or not we arrived here of our own volition. And even "learning" is sort of a misnomer. We need to help each other remember. Whatever age you are, you're that plus several trillion. You just don't remember, and where you come from, time is flat. Higher self is the culmination of all of those "lives" - not here - but where time is flat. So accessing that will allow you to remember - but memory from the perspective of here can be forward or backward. From the perspective of there, it's all simultaneous.
I think some of us choose a harrowing beginning because it's a faster way to get to a place of understanding. And from there, we can do real work instead of getting brainwashed and stuck or having to only work through that part for the rest of our time here. It's a way to break through the non-remembrance barrier faster.
I see everything else as a fragment or an archetype connecting back to the whole. Every fragment has an unhealed aspect. When we heal, we reintegrate.
We, here, are basically fragmented personalities of our higher selves. The shock from the recycler caused a split. It's the same way monarch slaves are made. Electroshock therapy. It's archontic torture for the purpose of loosh production. Once you realize we're all from the same Source, and you know this is happening, it stands to reason that Source faced trauma and split up into a trillion fragments. Our job is to heal and return.
The entire universe has DID and needs a massive soul retrieval.
Since earth is a prison, you can think of it as the shadow self, where the fragments that were too traumatic were stored to prevent recall. It's a coping mechanism. When we heal, we reintegrate. We merge. It's fractal.
Biochemistry is extremely important because of where we are/the fact that we're stuck in 3D meat suits.
Living in 3D makes living as one consciousness impossible by nature of owning and operating a meat suit.
You can tap into the collective - you SHOULD tap into the collective - but chunks of consciousness are living in meat suits so that Source can experience itself.
If you put all of that consciousness, all of those experiences, all of that pain into one entity, the result would be a schizophrenic psychopath with DID and a heart of gold that sometimes gets subverted by its baser desires despite the fact it knows better.
I get the feeling that Source wouldn't want to meet itself in a dark alley, and so it has kept pieces of itself sequestered. The shadow aspects of Source work to prevent Source’s healing, not because healing would be anathema, but because shadow perceives change as dangerous and tries to self-protect the whole by erecting barriers by creating “fear.” “Fear” is intended to keep us safe.
This is what our minds do when we fragment traumatic memories in order to self-protect.
The goal of all of this, from what I gather.... people have the wrong idea about the universe. Let's bring this back down to fractals and holograms and "as above so below.”
In the human mind, what happens when we experience trauma?
Consciousness fragments.
How did the universe begin?
Fragmented consciousness.
It would take healing every last piece of Source and reintegrating Source in order for the universe to heal. Tall order. So we do the best we can with the chunk of Source that was entrusted to each of us. We're each responsible for healing our own chunk.
Maybe someday we will all heal our chunks simultaneously and Source will be healed overall. We're not there. So all we can do is heal ourselves and hold space for the other chunks who are working toward healing.
The soul chunk is infinite. Or it can form a collective with other soul chunks. But we are supposed to learn and grow and heal source from whatever nasty trauma fragmented source into a billion billion pieces. My guess... utter loneliness. Some kind of sadness that fragmented literally everything. Fear of that sadness would cause this. What fixes it? Love.
I think we have a lot of misconceptions about how all of this works and we need to look inside to determine what's happening outside.
I think we were separated from this knowledge to prevent source consciousness from healing and to prevent us from accessing it because it keeps us from accessing our own power, self-worth, and abilities that we all have - everyone has psychic abilities because it's all just the ability to access the connection among these compartmentalized consciousnesses.
There's another strange piece to this that happened at the end of 2018. My friend Haley hemorrhaged and had to be rushed to the hospital. When she got home, she wrote to me. She said, "Please don't think I'm crazy - I was guided to tell you this...." I had been working on a video at the time. The information in the video which came out in the form of a poem I channeled but didn't quite understand at the time I was channeling was the same as what she told me. She said, "You're meant to share this."
I can show you the poem. I'd have to look for the video.
I forgot about that conversation.
It was about the information I just shared with you above, about the fragmentation of source.
What if it were possible to close your eyes and see
That the very nature of reality
Is something that came to be
Starting with the Big Bang and resonating down to fractal patterns inside you and inside me
A microcosm within every atom and cell
A macrocosm in every animal, every tree
That a complete understanding of the nature of the universe
Is something we can look inside, extrapolate, and see
Right now, scientists are studying dissociative identity
Which is something that was reclassified from being called multiple personality
It’s the way our minds deal with trauma to separate what actually is from what should be
A fragmentation that occurs within the psyche
This is something that happens when we
Cannot reconcile the actuality
Of the deepest pain we feel versus the people we need to be
In order to function, to survive, to thrive in this reality
We create mental boxes, mental frameworks, we were given the tools to keep
Certain memories broken off, buried, pushed down into our feet
And sometimes these are so hard to bear that a single me becomes a we
And all those separate memories have their own identities
Built around the notion that the only way to continue to be
Is to segment that pain into smaller pieces so it won’t be so daunting
Scientists are now considering the possibility
That on a macro level, this is how our universe came to be
That the pain of some unbearable trauma was the impetus that would lead
To the universe breaking apart and separating into everything we see
Into separate consciousness, into every being
Into every atom, cell, animal, and tree
Into every star and every solar system… all of this… is a ‘we’
That may have been created to carry the unbearable pain of one single being
And this being is what we feel when we feel interconnectivity
When we know on every level that intrinsically
We are all sharing aspects of a shared reality
And we are out here gathering experiences that will serve to help us each
Heal the piece of a grander cosmic pain we were given to oversee
So what happens if as an individual and as a society
We work to heal this pain inside, choose to get well, choose to breathe
Choose to see the good in life, to deal in harmony
Choose to be responsible for reconciling
The parts inside of all of us that split up, every piece
What if we get really brave and we examine every memory
What if we resolve our pain and become whole so that we can be free
So that we can reintegrate with source or the universe or god or whatever you choose to call this thing
This shared cosmic consciousness in pieces inside of you and me
So that all the bits and parts and fragments of this entity
Are reunited back from those pieces to recreate the unity
That can only happen when we each decide to look within and become healthy
And maybe that makes ascension our responsibility
Maybe we have to commit to growth so we can all be free.
From Apollo's Lyre:
What an excellent post! I appreciate the insight and largely agree. Amazing story about your friend and the poem too. (I hope she is doing well now.)
There are so many threads to pull on there! Conjures up Tolkien's idea of "The Discord of Melchior," Planetary's "Fourth Man," the Hermetic fractal holographic concepts, the Buddhist ideas you cover like the Samsara Recycler (good band name haha)... I was telling Leithian in Stack the other day I can succumb to a kind of Kotov Syndrome when there is just too much interesting stuff and my mind short circuits and defaults to the simplest idea haha
Which in this case is what popped in my head during the part about healing our Chunk and the infinite soul Chunk...
We all need to love and heal our Chunk!
Meanwhile, live footage of my soul Chunk...
OMFG DYING 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“I have come to hate the phrase “we, the people.” It’s just another variant of collectivism, but with a classical liberal face.” - Christopher Cook
I actually wrote a piece about that because it's a language flip. We the people, which people, who are we? It's never defined. To which people are they referring? Themselves?
Doublespeak, Part Two: Consider the Word Choices of Others Very Carefully
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From Apollo's Lyre:
Just as an FYI, it is "We the People... of the United States." 😉 That's "the People" haha: citizens of the new nation.
And I understand the disdain for collectivism, I've written plenty in a similar vein. However, it seems to me that one can approach an extreme exultation of atomization and disdain for organization that ignores two fundamental points:
1) People are individuals, yes, but they are also social creatures. "No man is an island" and all that Donne jazz. Every single grouping is going to naturally generate implicit hierarchies and necessitate compromises. This is true the second a second will comes into play, conflict is inevitable, however trivial, and the resolution will always either involve compromise (one or more party willingly subjugating their desires) or dissolution of the association. See Cain and Abel. This can of course become exploitative in a social sense and tends to do so as size increases, and this is why scale and consent are the two key factors in ethical governance, but it is not intrinsically a moral or ethical evil in my eyes. It is natural; it is life; it can be meditated and mitigated as well. And I contend it is necessary to greater individual flourishing in the long run. See point 2!
2) People can choose to delegate responsibilities or even forfeit rights to facilitate associations and larger societies, including governmental structures. This is not them being violated, it is them being pragmatic. This is a Rousseauian social contract. "Apes together... strong!" The pragmatic side is saying life is complicated, and there is a lot going on and a lot that needs to be done, some of which I can't or don't want to do, and I will willingly sacrifice certain things for the advantages conferred by living in said society, e.g., large-scale military defense from enemies, or increased, coordinated economic production and distribution, or system of laws and enforcement. Perhaps somewhat paradoxically, the individual who remains only an individual may be too consumed with the tasks and deliberations of quotidian survival to reach the heights of individualization and personal success attainable without the liberation found from participation in a larger society, tradeoffs and all. Even if that means they sometimes have to do some things they don't want to because most of their group feels differently.
It strikes me that practically speaking the Founding Fathers, diverse as they may be, did a fine job setting up a governmental structure. They have held up pretty well considering they are battling generational waves of evil geniuses crashing against their ramparts. They even left us blueprints for how to handle truly tyrannical twists, but Americans today are not built of the same revolutionary stock as they were then, and I shall state clearly here for the record that I am not saying we have reached that point and also that I unequivocally denounce all political violence. At this stage though? is the problem the documents, or is it "we, the People?" Or is it just... people? Haha I would add that none of that means I do not wholeheartedly support people like Christopher who are endeavoring to take a critical look at many "foundational" concepts (myths?), and I particularly salute the effort in not only the deconstruction but also the challenging formulation of possible improvements or novel new alternatives! Truly, kudos to Christopher. It is a vital work even if we may differ on some points (and is ongoing so we very well may not by the end! Haha) As I mention in my "80s Did It" article, the tension between ever-probing progress and time-tested conservation is vital, imho, to a society (if societies are your thing haha)
It seems to me that people can choose to partake in communism, capitalism, democracy, monarchy, anarcho-syndacalist communes ("Come see the violence inherent in the system!")... whatever and that is not oppressive, it is practical and personal. Democracy is fine. Communism is fine.
They can all be fine; it is not any particular system that is problematic (though I have my preferences); it is the compulsion to partake in a particular system, which is invariably exacerbated as scale increases (though some clearly scale better than others haha) that is problematic. Life for many is a balancing act between freedom and responsibility. Uncle Ben's sage words to Peter resonate so strongly even outside of comicdom because they allude to this.
And this gets to the psychological corollary to the pragmatic one above. 'Gators may prize freedom above all else and even have the resources, intellect, and fortitude to live that lifestyle to a relatively high degree (even then: see aforementioned Donne quote); however as much as I celebrate the uplifting of all humankind and its truly transcendent potentiality, I acknowledge not everyone is "there" yet, and importantly many may not want to be, making it aggression for me to mandate they becomes some free, rugged, enlightened, self-sustaining, individualist ubermench. Different strokes. "Some of them want to use you. Some of them want be used by you." or as my boy Trent Reznor sang "I have found you can find happiness in slavery." Clearly (hopefully!) I am not advocating actual slavery haha, I am alluding to a mindset Trent elucidates where by abdication of responsibility is preferable than a painful liberation into accountability, of often worse, confusion, futility, and suffering, especially when lacking agency to enact desired change. To be free from freedom, as it were. Illusion of choice and all that.
So just give everyone agency! A great idea, I am happy to help that cause as it is a major mission of mine as well haha, but it is naive to think it can be brought about quickly and (back to my earlier point) that everyone is even capable/desirous of it at all on this multifarious experience we call life.
Now, is the current incarnation of our system obviously exploitive and insane? Yes. And more importantly, is it virtually impossible to "opt out," like some bad marketing mailing list? Yes. That is why it is anathema to me as well. I try in my writing and personal life to expose that and ameliorate things to the best of my humble ability, and I salute fellow 'Gators who I believe are doing similar things in their own ways, even if I suspect some perspectives on the path there may fall into that "agree to disagree" category lol. I know we all want what is best for people and cherish freedom, truth, creativity, nature... all that good stuff. As such, as much as I hate disclaimers, as has been discussed here I know text can be interpreted a lot of ways and much nuance and tone is missing, so I do want to be clear that I am not trying to disparage anyone, nor do I claim some ultimate authority haha. In fact, hell, I could shoot holes in a lot of what I wrote here as it is just some stream-of-consciousness thoughts, and I have run out of morning rant time. I readily concede that means a lot of points glossed over or poorly explained on my part, but I figure in case there are any diamonds in the rough here to be salvaged, or if only to be used for target practice lol, I shall humbly submit for consideration... in the Twilight Zone :)
One more quick thing haha, as a huge Neville fan, one of the only points he ever seems to vacillate on over the decades is whether or not we chose to come "down here" or we were chosen, essentially forced to. I don't have an answer but I always find that to be one particularly interesting mystery.
I think most get tricked into it. I think some volunteer to try to come down and liberate the tricked people and then they forget how to leave themselves and end up getting recycled too. It's supposedly considered something very dangerous to do willingly if you are coming down with an honest assessment of what it's like here. It's like volunteering to go for a stay in an insane asylum to rescue people from their own mental imprisonment.
From Apollo's Lyre:
Whew. That all really resonates with me. Frankly, and I don’t say this often with regard to metaphysical stuff, I think that is just right haha
Reminds me of Alan Watts talking about how God (or what term you like) is playing increasingly complex games of "experience," because omni-everythingness is boring af, pushing the boundaries until eventually She pushes a particularly dangerous/adventurous button and 'POOF!' here we are! Lol "Oops, all matter!"
King Mob, our boy Grant's author insert in hypersigil Invisibles, says something similar in Bloody Hell in America when he spots this apparently hyperdimensional superfluid being contained by govt authorities and describes it as basically God trapped in His own creation.
And of course we all know what friend of humanity Bill Hicks told us about how humanity treats its would-be enlighteners lol
From Christopher Cook:
We are a social species. The most social on the planet. (Bees cannot choose to be hermits; we can.) But… My stance is that if we start from the point of acknowledging that, saying no man is an island, etc., and thus that we need to construct our thinking along those lines, the inevitable result is that the individual human person ends up being treated as a sub-unit of the collective.
It is better, IMO, to begin with the indivisible individual human person as the fundamental unit of analysis and moral concern, and then work upward from there to society, rather than working from society down to the individual.
That, IMO, is the only way to avoid the horrors of the 20th century, all of which began with some small group of people opining that “no man is an island.” Individual first, then society.
So then the next obvious question, which you indeed raised, is the degree to which the individual must “sacrifice” his rights in order to “live with others.” And there, I have come to believe that the answer is that the individual need not sacrifice at all.
A right is anything you wish to do that does not initiate coercive force against another. Your rights are infinite. If you violate the rights of another, you will have protective force deployed against you. But there is no reason why that need be done by a single entity imposing its authority involuntarily. There are other ways (though that is a separate and long discussion).
Responsibility does not conflict with freedom. Freedom, in the proper top-level sense, is not “license to do whatever one wishes.” It is, rather, freedom from external coercion. But if you acquire a responsibility (by driving into your neighbor’s fence, signing a contract, or bearing children, etc.), you are now obligated to the other party (or your children) because you took a positive act that created the responsibility. That does not conflict with freedom; you are responsible, so you may be held to that responsibility.
(That said, you might be, in some ethical sense, responsible to help your fellow man, but you are not responsible in the sense that you may be held, by force, to pay for that fellow man. You did not cause his existence or his privation. So, while it would be a nice/social thing to do to help him, you must not be forced to do so. Any system that forces you to do so is morally criminal.)
Let’s see, what else did you say?
Oh yeah, about people who are not ready for freedom. That’s fine. I am not trying to control what they do. I am not trying to take their government from them. I am not trying to take control of the government and then impose my blueprint upon them. I just want them to let me and mine go.
I can pay a private firm for justice, aggression insurance/security, and roads. I can live my life without imposing anything upon anyone, or causing anything to be imposed upon them by any third party. All I ask is the same. Anything else is an act of violence.
So, I would not want to force a sudden bout of agency (or force anything else) on anyone. Live and let live.
And as far as the feasibility of opting out…well, it seems impossible now, but then again, when Antonio Gramsci and the Western Marxists said, a century ago, that they were going to go on a “long march through the institutions” and take over Western civilization, that sounded nutty too. And yet here we are. They did exactly that.
Someone has to start the project.
So I am starting it.
And re: your disclaimers, all good, bro. We all want good things, and we are all trying to find a way to make good things happen.
“Appreciate you, sir, and your thoughtful reply, as well. A fascinating discussion indeed!” - Apollo's Lyre
I ordinarily laugh at MLB's delivery, but this one has me giggling like a freaking loon. He keeps saying, "What if you saw this under your neighbor's house or in a grocery store? This is not normal. This would be a Netflix series." And he's absolutely right.
And every single time, it's under a church with writing on the wall that basically says, "You're next."
And somehow that makes it ok and people pay money to go there to see it and they have to put up glass in front of it because people are psycho and want to touch the bones.
Turn bones into a chandelier under a church and suddenly it's ok. But when Jeffrey Dahmer does it, not so much.
“100%! He is spot on: it's lunacy. Plus his delivery kills me lol. ‘And we are still putting up amazing structures like this all the time today. ... oh wait, we're not? No. Of course we're not. It took them five years to build the 7-11 down the street from me.’” - Apollo's Lyre
I love how he says this ridiculous shit, pauses... and he just says, "NO." Like flat out. 🤣🤣🤣
“I love that guy, so funny. Good morning, Gators!” - leithian
OMFG!!! YES!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“That gator is definitely shenanigati-- That photo!!! It's beautiful! That gator gets it. Zero fucks given. Doing the mashed potato with your pal in the living room with just a necktie on, spinning around, just loving life haha. Or is that a scarf? Either way. Gators do get chilly I suppose.” - Apollo's Lyre
I think it's a scarf! LOL!! And he reminds me of Nicky Jello.
“Just a regular pic of ol Hills!” - Apollo's Lyre
“She does look a bit ‘frazzled...’” - Apollo's Lyre
I see what you did there. But really I can't unsee what you did there. 🤮🤣
“I appreciate you! I figured if that joke ever had a chance to land, it would be here haha. Though, yeeeaaah, that is a legit terrifying story. I don’t put anything past these psychos.” - Apollo's Lyre
I groaned. I laughed. I groaned again. I laughed even harder. And I didn't want to gross anyone out who doesn't know. So I said what I said. LMFAO. 🙂
“All eminently reasonable responses, in my humble opinion :)” - Apollo's Lyre
“Clearly, I missed something signified by the use of quotation marks for frazzled. Do I even want to know? 😆” - leithian
No. You really don't. It's so awful that I can't even in good conscience make it the Disturbing Thing I Showed leithian This Week. It's not a joke. It's grotesque and sad and I know how you will feel about it and I'm not subjecting you to it. ❤️
“I trust your judgement, given the level of disturbing we are typically okay with. Thank you for sparing me. ❤️” - leithian
New Vocabulary
People Are So Used To Others Being Indirect And Phony That Clear Direct Communication Appears Aggressive
This Is Pissfingers
“Awwww Mrs. Pissfingers just needs some snuggles and I am sure she is a real sweetie pie. Well, snuggles... and that 400 acres of extinct fruits.” - Apollo's Lyre
Yacht Rock Returns: The Revenge of Christopher Cross
“We just drove past a large gathering of yachts in the water, and it made me think of a question...does anybody here like yacht rock?” - Judy Cook
Yes and no. We're split down the middle on that. LOL!
“Nooooooooooooo!!!!! 😂😂😂” - leithian
Just don't make Jacqueline Rendell and leithian listen to it. LOL.
“Thank you for your continued understanding on this matter!! 😂🙏❤️” - Jacqueline Rendell
“OMFG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. They are NOT yacht rock. I like America. That's it. The rest would induce that cat's reaction. 🤣 Except that particular America song 🤣” - leithian
“The playlist creator is wrong 🤣🤣🤣. Blues and blues rock are not yacht rock LOL.” - leithian
After the onslaught from SFC, I made a yacht rock Pandora station. Divination room even tags whether the songs are or are not yacht rock at this point, just for fun. And then there was Yacht or Nyacht. Which is hilarious. There is also Shenanigator Radio.
“Yesssssss! Thank you for this! 🤣🤣🤣 It should effectively supplant Pete Booty Judge's tweet quoting the original lyrics, which has consequently tainted my enjoyment of one of my favorite bands.” - leithian
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Great scroll! Laughing my ass off.
As for yacht rock, I just cranked up my Ambrosia playlist. They put the “OOOOH” in “SMOOTH”’
Thanks for mentioning my work. 🙏🏽🦋