Listen now | Demi Pietchell talks to Dawn Lester about her journey of discovery that led to her co-authoring the book "What Really Makes You Ill," the physiology of trauma and its impact upon health, and more.
Jul 21, 2023Liked by The Starfire Codes, Dawn Lester
In studying plants it's noted that sick plants emit a different frequency to healthy plants, in doing so they attract secondary damaging agents that are then labelled primary cause. Although there are a multitude of reasons for why plants can become sick, much evidence suggests the primary driver for plant health is it's electromagnetic balance with any imbalance leading to visual secondary symptoms we call causation. I think the same disconnect of cause and effect exists in western medicine diagnosis. What really makes us well is another way of viewing this, good discussion, thank you.
Thank you so much! We do talk more about Firstenberg's work in episode 17, so you'll definitely want to check that one out as well once it drops. That was an episode I did with my co-host Kristen Welch (Moon Maiden Musings) and Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy.
Jul 29, 2023Liked by The Starfire Codes, Dawn Lester
Hi Demi & Dawn,
Wow, just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your talk, and the share of information in such an elegant way.
Besides that, I love to respond to one part.
Around 33 minutes left into the interview you talk about the assumption that "medicine fixes the problem" and yes it's "based on the faulty model", but since you dive into the meaning of words I like to add my 2 cents ;)
Because in a way the meds fix us.
In the meaning of the word fix, i.e. make firm, stable, or permanent... I think also of solidify (making it harder) whereas if the body is given the opportunity to heal, it doesn't fix, it overcomes, and then the problem is gone.
But the word fix points at the idea that the problem gets a state, a status and can't heal, like you said we 'get' it and by fixing it the body moves the problem deeper in its system because we refuse to deal with the symptoms.
Therefore it is correct to say that the meds fix us... but we don't want to be fixed. The bodily system doesn't fix either, it's a flowing system, not in a permanent state.
When people are in dis-ease they have a choice to feel diseased or fix... "get" a label like "have diabetes", "get diabetic".
In a way, sugar coating the hurt of feeling lack of love. Now we can take the opportunity to sharing that root cause with others, and start doing things for our bodies that proof we love it.
Thanks again for your share of information and your beautiful work.
I haven't studied it, although I am aware of the general idea behind it.
I think there is a lot of merit to GNM because it highlights one of the factors involved in health issues that is not really acknowledged by the mainstream medical system - the emotional/trauma/psychology aspect.
However, I don't think it provides the full answer to all health problems and, as far as I can tell, it doesn't provide people with how to solve their traumas to enable their bodies to heal.
I am not an expert - far from it, but I like the overall concept, and that it's based upon 5 Biological Laws, and that the body, including the brain and the gut, have the inbuilt ability to heal themselves.
What I also found liberating and enlightening was how they look at 'illness' or the 'symptoms' as the healing phase of the process. Which immediately removes the fear element.
I am using myself as a guinea pig, having just suffered an 'illness' and not using Allopathic Medicine or doctors to 'treat' it, and to see if it works.
In studying plants it's noted that sick plants emit a different frequency to healthy plants, in doing so they attract secondary damaging agents that are then labelled primary cause. Although there are a multitude of reasons for why plants can become sick, much evidence suggests the primary driver for plant health is it's electromagnetic balance with any imbalance leading to visual secondary symptoms we call causation. I think the same disconnect of cause and effect exists in western medicine diagnosis. What really makes us well is another way of viewing this, good discussion, thank you.
Thank you so much! We do talk more about Firstenberg's work in episode 17, so you'll definitely want to check that one out as well once it drops. That was an episode I did with my co-host Kristen Welch (Moon Maiden Musings) and Mike Stone of ViroLIEgy.
Episode 17 dropped yesterday if you'd like to check it out.
Hi Demi & Dawn,
Wow, just wanted to say how much I enjoyed your talk, and the share of information in such an elegant way.
Besides that, I love to respond to one part.
Around 33 minutes left into the interview you talk about the assumption that "medicine fixes the problem" and yes it's "based on the faulty model", but since you dive into the meaning of words I like to add my 2 cents ;)
Because in a way the meds fix us.
In the meaning of the word fix, i.e. make firm, stable, or permanent... I think also of solidify (making it harder) whereas if the body is given the opportunity to heal, it doesn't fix, it overcomes, and then the problem is gone.
But the word fix points at the idea that the problem gets a state, a status and can't heal, like you said we 'get' it and by fixing it the body moves the problem deeper in its system because we refuse to deal with the symptoms.
Therefore it is correct to say that the meds fix us... but we don't want to be fixed. The bodily system doesn't fix either, it's a flowing system, not in a permanent state.
When people are in dis-ease they have a choice to feel diseased or fix... "get" a label like "have diabetes", "get diabetic".
In a way, sugar coating the hurt of feeling lack of love. Now we can take the opportunity to sharing that root cause with others, and start doing things for our bodies that proof we love it.
Thanks again for your share of information and your beautiful work.
I'll pass it on to friends. Love 💜
Thank you for your kind words, I'm glad you enjoyed our conversation.
You make good points about how we need to be careful about how we use language.
It is also important not to get too obsessed about our words though, which might make conversations rather stilted.
Thank you.
Sure, but a break of pattern feels often unnatural at first.
Once introduced in inner circle of friends it's also hilarious in my experience. Then, we use the words that convey what we really want to express.
German New Medicine. What are your views on it?
I haven't studied it, although I am aware of the general idea behind it.
I think there is a lot of merit to GNM because it highlights one of the factors involved in health issues that is not really acknowledged by the mainstream medical system - the emotional/trauma/psychology aspect.
However, I don't think it provides the full answer to all health problems and, as far as I can tell, it doesn't provide people with how to solve their traumas to enable their bodies to heal.
I am not an expert - far from it, but I like the overall concept, and that it's based upon 5 Biological Laws, and that the body, including the brain and the gut, have the inbuilt ability to heal themselves.
What I also found liberating and enlightening was how they look at 'illness' or the 'symptoms' as the healing phase of the process. Which immediately removes the fear element.
I am using myself as a guinea pig, having just suffered an 'illness' and not using Allopathic Medicine or doctors to 'treat' it, and to see if it works.